Yeah, I like the idea that Kylo was around 10-12 mainly because it makes his situation more understandable, but also because it creates a parallel with Finn’s backstory, with both of them taken and indoctrinated at a young age. It also fits with Han’s shock, and what’s said about Snoke using Kylo. And with how very lost Kylo is, which creates another parallel with Rey, both of them being lost children.

The parallel with Finn is very interesting. The parallels between those two do not get explored enough. I’m sure we’ll be doing more of that once we’re looking at the complete piece.

And then the lost children parallel with Rey is great too. 

I did get the impression from Leia in the novelization that Snoke had been influencing Kylo since he was a kid, around age 10 or even earlier. 

Yeah, there are a lot of things to like about this theory. 

That’s one thing that has been amazing me about TFA is that I’ve heard/read a billion different theories and I’m surprisingly OK with most of them. As long as Kylo and Rey are both Skywalkers, then the other possible details are all interesting and fun in their own way. 

Final Fantasy incest ships!

We get aboard the incest armada as early as Final Fantasy II! Gordon and Scott are both princes, and Scott dies early in the game, before he can even profess his love to a princess. Gordon feels devastated and weak without his brother, thinking he isn’t fit to be a leader in his stead.

   In Final Fantasy IV we get the twins Palom and Porom, who are very close despite their occasional bickering and are shown in the sequel to be psychically connected, as Porom is able to sense something terribly wrong with her brother several hundreds of miles away. They’re like yin and yang, complementing each other with black and white magic, sacrifice themselves together (they get better. yeah, I have no idea) and are shown to care for one another deeply.
   Another pair in this game is (spoilers!) Cecil and Theodor, aka Golbez. They were separated through Zemus when they were really young, but after Theodor breaks free from the creature’s control he is shown to immediately care for his younger brother, and feels regret for what he was forced to do. Cecil is willing to forgive Theodor in a heartbeat despite everything he’s done and still considers him family. In the sequel, Theodor does not hesitate in an attempt to sacrifice himself for Cecil’s sake, but Cecil won’t let him.
  Oh, and the sequel introduces a couple of kids, so badass family incest is in order.

  In Final Fantasy V there’s (spoilers, again) the sisters Faris and Lenna, who are again separated when young and later meet. Faris mellows her tough pirate front to admit she cares for Lenna, and Lenna is also very happy and glad to meet Faris even as this is only the first time they see each other.
   Galuf and Krile are grandfather and granddaughter, and despite the huge age gap they can be cute; can I say (spoilers) Galuf gives his soul to her when he dies?

   In Final Fantasy VI, the brothers Sabin and Edgar, oh so much. Edgar rigs a coin toss just so he can see his brother free and happy, and stays with the burden of carrying a nation. When they meet later they still understand each other more than anyone else, and play around as if nothing had happened, not to mention how Sabin feels after he learns that Edgar used a two-headed coin for his sake ten years back (and the coin is fashioned after the two princes, a custom gift made for their mother, which makes it even more touching.)

   In Final Fantasy VII there are family relations but no actual blood relation, but there’s the fact you can (and are encouraged to) inbreed chocobos to get better chocobos.

   Final Fantasy VIII doesn’t have much in the way of family anything, but there’s a pairing that I like a lot, Squall and his father Laguna. Another example in which they never saw each other until later on in their lives, and it isn’t immediately obvious to them that they are related, but Laguna still cares for and helps the cold and distant Squall however he can. Squall at first thinks the carefree Laguna is kinda too goofy, but seems to grow a soft spot for him.

   In Final Fantasy IX we jump straight into a spoilery, not-exactly-blood-related brothership, Kuja and Zidane, who were created by the same man in a same manner and for a same purpose, and thus have an ideological view on being related; Mikoto can be considered their sister in the same way. In spite of being protagonist and antagonist, they grow to be sympathetic towards each other much later on, with Kuja demonstrating self-hatred and Zidane trying to comfort him. It’s important to mention Zidane chose to stay behind in an unstable location so he could try to save his brother, and that Kuja then pushed Zidane out of harm’s way and told him to leave for his friends, before dying. Zidane takes a pretty long while to return to Alexandria so I believe it’s implied he mourns Kuja.

   In Final Fantasy X we got some cousins going on with Yuna and Rikku, who are at the very least teased at. There’s also the skirmishing, I-hate-you-but-I-actually-care-about-you thing happening with Tidus and his father Jecht.

   Final Fantasy XII has plenty of characters and incest ships, so bear with me awhile. Firstly we have Vaan and Reks, two brothers who determinedly care about each other but that we don’t see much of because Reks dies very early in-game, sadly. (Late arrival spoilers) Noah (Gabranth) and Basch are tragic brothers, and so are Larsa and Vayne, who are opposite in what they believe in but still respect each other. There are viera sisters not to mention SIX moogle siblings, with Montblanc as the eldest, and any combination could be made out of that. And I may be wrong, but Ondore may be Ashe’s uncle?

   Final Fantasy XIII has the sisters Serah and Lightning (Claire). Lightning is known for glaring daggers at Snow and considering him not worthy enough to be Serah’s boyfriend.

   In Final Fantasy Tactics, we get quite a batch of siblings, with Ramza and Alma being full siblings with each other and half-siblings to Dycedarg and Zalbaag. Delita and Tietra are also siblings, and so are Wiegraf and Milleuda, Marach and Rapha, and Isilud and Meliadoul. They’re all pretty shippable despite being all tragic pairings.

In Bravely Default (which is a Final Fantasy game despite not having the title), there’s a case of potential ideological incest, (spoilers) in which Alternis is raised to be part of the Lee family, and has a major crush on the Lee’s actual daughter Edea. This is slightly debatable but Braev and Mahzer have basically (MAJOR spoilers) considered Ringabel (aka Alternis) a son in one of the dimensions, so ideologically it’s pretty in there.

If any other FF fans want to address something I forgot, or for a game I know less about (such as the Crystal Chronicles sub-series) please feel free!

i’ve just watched the first episode of war and peace omg!! helene and anatole are everything!!!!! i feel so #blessed thanks bbc

I KNOW!

It was even better than I had been hoping for. I would have liked to have seen them interacting more, just more everything with them (if you know what I mean!) but it was great. 

I actually really liked how they were lying in bed together talking about their potential beneficial marriages to other people. It’s like their relationship is so far above any concerns about who they’re married to.

Callum Turner and Tuppence Middleton have awesome chemistry. 

I can’t wait for more of them in episode 2. 

Have you heard of the movie One&Two? Has Kiernan Shipka in it and it looks like a fantasy version of Flowers in the Attic. Two siblings are sequestered away from the outside world by their Mom and Dad, and they have supernatural abilities to teleport. That’s the info I got from Internet searching, I can’t find anything about canon incest, though I assume there are some incesty bits. I haven’t watched it yet but it’s on Netflix!

Hi, Anon!

Yes, I am familiar with One & Two, in fact I have seen it and I wrote about it here

You’ll be disappointed to hear that there’s nothing canon, but I enjoyed the movie quite a lot, especially the brother/sister relationship. It wasn’t suggestive exactly, but circumstantially it had a lot going for it – they have a very deep connection to each other and there are no love interests or anything like that.

It really does resemble FITA a lot (and not even because of Kiernan), except for the sad lack of actual canon incest.

I hope you enjoy it, if you decide to watch it!

Thank you for info/rec!

Нello) I think that the memories Rey shows Kylo saved her because it shows how there is another knight Ren with a sword, Kylo seeing it plunges a sword into a knight. (I apologize in advance because English is not my native language, it was Google Translate :((( )

Hello!

That’s a very interesting idea, Anon! I am sorry I took so long to respond. And thank you for communicating  your ideas to me even though we have a language barrier – I believe I understand what you are saying, and it’s very interesting. 

I have often wondered about what all Kylo sees when he’s probing Rey’s mind. We already know that he doesn’t go straight for the information about the map and dallies instead, learning intimate details about her life. I’m sure what Rey saw in the “Forceback” (her vision when she touched Luke’s lightsaber) is in the forefront of her mind, and I’m actually surprised that it’s not explicitly shown that Kylo sees some of what Rey witnessed in her Forceback. But perhaps that would give too much away too soon. If Kylo knew for a fact that Rey had a connection to Luke it might have changed things.

It’s possible that Kylo saw what she saw – him saving her on the battlefield. That would certainly have an effect on how he felt about her. 

I think it’s a great theory. What’s holding me back is some of the information that I’ve learned recently, which I lay out here, mainly that Rey was most likely not present while Kylo and the Knights of Ren were destroying the new Jedi. 

I don’t know the truth, Anon! Star Wars posed all these questions and chose not to answer them in order to drive us crazy.

Hi, I’m obsessed with your blog. I haven’t been interested in incest ships, but I also never specifically minded them. After watching Borgias and now also being invested in Reylo, I found your blog. You always convey your metas and replies in such an intelligent and polite manner. It’s great! Long story short, you opened my eyes to the posibillities of certain ships and I totally love your blog :)

THANK YOU SO MUCH! You’re so sweet! I’m so happy you have been enjoying the blog and maybe finding some new ships or some new posts on here. Welcome to the family!!!

Hi, you read a song of ice and fire? Targaryens married between siblings, has also Jaime and Cersei are the current incest, but what strikes me as most attention was Jon Snow and Arya they are presented to us as siblings but there is a theory that makes a lot of sense that they are cousins, is visible that has something Jon comes to believe that his gf can have a body like the sis 4 times, and she too compare ur love interest with him, in the original draft they would be a couple

Wow, what a coincidence, I just answered a message on the exact same topic with someone else, but privately. 

I do think that Jon and Arya are most likely cousins. 

Finding out that in GRRM’s original conception they were canon has been very interesting, hasn’t it?

I didn’t realize that Jon and Arya had compared each other to love interests (though I wouldn’t be surprised if Jon had said that Ygritte reminded him of Arya more than once). I do love how much Jon and Arya think of each other, and with such fondness.

Maybe you’ve already seen it but in case you haven’t, there’s this movie called the Royal Tenenbaums that has an adopted brother and sister who fall in love, and you might want to check it out. :)

I do very much appreciate the recommendation, Anon, even though yes, in this case I have seen The Royal Tenenbaums. But Richie/Margo are not to be missed!!!! Thank you!

Here’s the tag. 

This is the second time I’ve quoted myself but I love what I said about them:

The way Richie is such a mess over being so in love with her gives me so many feels. He’s so self-contained about it and it’s just exploding inside of him.

As true now as when I first wrote it.

Неllo. Kingsman: The Secret Service 2015. Michelle Unwin and her son Gary «Eggsy» Unwin.

Hello!

Wow, this is actually not the first message I have gotten about Michelle and Eggsy. I guess I’m only surprised because it didn’t really occur to me while I was watching Kingsman

I don’t have any commentary on them, really. I would need to rewatch (and I plan on rewatching it because I loved it) before I have any thoughts. 

It’s so sweet the way he looks out for her.

Thanks for the message!

Fox’s new series “Second Chance” partially focuses on twins. The male only speaks to his sister (he speaks to her and she speaks to the world) and they have their own language. She has cancer and he’s doing everything he can to save her. Though they say she is more of a mother to him, than sister. It’s going to be interesting to see where it goes but they are super close.

They released the pilot early, have you seen it, Anon?

I did sort of a short write-up on it here. They were definitely super close. A very fascinating dynamic. 

Thank you for the message!